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6th March, 1938

Talk 466.

Mr. Vaidyalingam, an employee of the National Bank: By meditation manifestation disappears and then ananda [?] results. It is short-lived. How is it made ever abiding?
M.: By scorching the predispositions.
D.: Is not the Self the witness only (sakshimatra)?
M.: `Witness' is applicable when there is an object to be seen.

Then it is duality. The Truth lies beyond both. In the mantra , sakshi cheta kevalo nirgunascha, the word sakshi [?] must be understood as sannidhi [?] (presence), without which there could be nothing. See how the sun is necessary for daily activities. He does not however form part of the world actions; yet they cannot take place without the sun. He is the witness of the activities. So it is with the Self.


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