17th September, 1938

Talk 515.

D.: In the explanation given yesterday, it is said that the removal of avarana ^[?] results in the annihilation of the karana sarira ^[?]. That is clear. But how is the gross body considered to fall off too?

M.: The vasanas are of two kinds: bandha hetu ^[?] (causing bondage) and bhoga hetu ^[?] (only giving enjoyment). The Jnani ^[?] has transcended the ego and therefore all the causes of bondage are inoperative. Bandha ^[?]

hetu ^[?] is thus at an end and prarabdha ^[?] (past karma ^[?]) remains as bhoga ^{[?] [?]}

vasana ^[?] (to give enjoyment) only. Therefore it was said that the sukshma ^[?]

sarira ^[?] alone survives jnana. Kaivalya ^[?] says that sanchita Karma (stored Karma) is at an end simultaneously with the rise of jnana; that agami

(Karma now collecting) is no longer operative owing to the absence of the sense of bondage, and that prarabdha will be exhausted by enjoyment (bhoga) only. Thus the last one will end in course of time and then the gross body also falls away with it. Sarira traya ^[?] (the three bodies) and Karma traya (the three Karmas)

are mere phrases meant for the delectation of debaters. A Jnani is not affected by any of them. An aspirant is instructed to find who he is. If he does so, he will take no interest in discussing such matters as the above. Find the Self and rest in Peace.